Talk:Backup and restore/@comment-26578675-20150728214549/@comment-26578675-20150809160442

Heres what I've found out in a nutshell...

Andriod enviroments are literally designed to dissalow users sufficient property rights to create adiquate backups unless the application itself has been designed at a programming level to interact with google backup services which permit google servers the property rights to the application data and saves to transport to google cloud servers. Moonbase object has no communication to the google backup services currently, and so no property rights. Thus upon new installations, the users base is not restored.

After testing many websites listings of the "top ten" backup programs I found that they all are APK extractor capable, that is to say they can make a single file that can be saved locally or on cloud that will allow a user to install the application without downloading it again. But all required a level of root access in order to have property rights raised so they could copy the application data and saves.

Believing that rooting is the only option available to be able to bypass this and grant full console rights to the andriod enviroment for the user to make backups of application data, I looked into the processess involved to see if "joe/jane doe" could manage it. Not. First, it voids your warentee completly, its akin to hacking or jailbraking. Second, a failed attempt can cause your device to brick, or fail forever. Third, there is no standard process that will root due to the variable number of devices and andriod versions.

Though this rooting aspect I have done little testing outside the bluestacks half pre-rooted enviroment in that programs like the ones you suggest will seem to do an additional backup of the moonbase object enviroment but inevitably fail to restore these backups onto an unrooted device that denies the access required to retore them or that the data was not copied as part of the backup. Either way, the applications fail to even do a rooted to unrooted restore of moonbase object.

Its pretty much at the point where I had to let marc know and request a feature for user backup/restore option on his private server that would be attached to the users google account id... i'm pretty sure he pointed and laughed at me. lol